Bc are around 1000$ and honestly are not much better then ez streets that are 650$. With ground control you’ll probably have to buy new shocks since it’s just a sleeve and spring this can get pricy if you’re looking at adjustable ones. I’d know since I’ve had all 3 set ups
Thing is I only need the sleeves, don’t need the springs as I have my spring rates already figured out. Currently using eBay sleeves and wrapped duct tape around the yellows to take up the slack between the shock and the sleeve ? it works I guess…
Most people can’t actually tell the difference just get some cheap shit and tell yourself they’re good and they’ll feel good to you. The human brain is pretty rad. Or sad. Idk anymore ??♂️
I’ve never been in a car with “good” coilovers. But if you’re not racing competitively what’s the point of spending 1600+ most miatas are 99.9% street driven anyway
Yeah but lets be honest here, these are like 20 year old cars with most likely factory suspension components all around. You swear like throwing on good quality spring/dampers will prevent it from riding like shit or squeaking. If you’re not willing to pay for good suspension like op then you’re probably not gonna spend the time to replace those torn bushings and sticking ball joints lol. Just my $0.02
I have a set of yonaka spec IIs on my 90 & I love them. Yes they are cheap but are worlds better than the tired suspension I had before. The spring rates are on the softer side so they aren’t ideal for competition track or autox (even though I’ve done multiple track days on them & they’ve worked surprisingly well) however, for a daily, they are very livable. They come with top hats plus have adjustable damping. The customer service is quite good as well. For less than 500 shipped, they have worked prefect for my needs.
I almost bought the entry level teins but I had several members of my local miata groups tell me they were not that great (higher end teins are much much better). A couple other guys had the yonakas & really liked them for the price. I talked to guy from another group who had his yonakas for almost 50k miles without any issues. Most people see the tein brand & rightfully think they’re the best bet but everything I’ve read & been told has been mixed, mostly negative
Wow I hadn’t even considered the yonaka. I was struggling to decide between the street advance and the vmaxx for a tad more but I’ll look into these yonakas a bit. From a nonbiased perspective is the ride actually good for daily driving? Not bouncy or harsh? Keep in mind I have 167k original shocks lol
The flyin miata vmaxx are a much better option if you can swing it. Flyin miata only puts out quality things. I was going to get that kit but decided to save some money for tires & track days instead. That being said, these are quite good for the price. I’m not slammed or anything close to it so these ride pretty good in terms of daily use. I normally drive my car to work during nicer months (maybe 50mi a day) & it’s not harsh at all. I recently did an all day event with my local club which involved a 2.5hr drive to the meeting point, about 4ish hours of hard twisty road driving, then a 3.5hr drive home & I didn’t have a complaint the entire time. It’s stiffer than stock so you will feel more than normal but it’s not like you’re bouncing off the bumpstops the whole time.
I’m also running a larger front sway too. The car isn’t perfect but it out handles my current skills & is livable on the street so I’m happy for right now. They aren’t a bad choice
If the budget allow $995, the MeisterR ZetaCRD would be the choice for fast road usage. Good ride height range, compliant over uneven roads, fully assembled out of the box, and tried & tested over 7 years.
A lot of unique features make the MeisterR perform better than the competition.
A unique extended rear top mount allow room for a longer rear damper with more travel. The ZetaCRD have more rear damper travel than Ohlins DFV. Unique CRD valving designed in UK that provide better performance on stiffer damping setting while maintaining compliant ride quality on softer damping setting. UK patent pending locking collars, thicker damper shaft for more side load capacity, etc. Quite a few bits. ?
@Alex some people love a shit ride, I had yonokas and imo those where still complete shit I went back to oem , spend a good amount or just don’t bother lowering it
@Alex steel I believe, I’m sure it has all the info online I didint so much research I just knew they where cheaper out of most options and from what I herd better then racelands but I doubt that lol
I have FM vmaxx classic. They are somewhat bouncy so there’s a small sacrifice in ride comfort but they are so much better controlled. The car is flat and doesn’t get upset as easily as before so they are a big step up in performance. If stock is 5 out of 10 in both comfort and performance then Vmaxx are a 4 comfort and 7 performance.
I picked up Megan racing streets (up one level from EZ streets) used for $500. Handling is no doubt better than tired stock suspension. I daily drive the car and do track nights. I still regret the Megans and wish I just saved up for Xidas or something on that level.
Another thing to consider, resale price of something like Xidas is high enough where’s you’d loose like $400 max. If you buy some meh $700-900 coilovers new, you’re gonna loose the same amount of money upon resale anyway.
Good or cheap
Pick one
in between
Just save the money and buy better coils. It’ll be worth it.
what kind do u have?
Bc racing
Megan ez streets
I’ve rode in a Miata with God speed Momo ss or something like that they were good
For a in-between price
thanks!!
Research and take rides in different miatas with different set ups.
Personally I’m going to go with fortune auto coilovers
sadly the only person i knew with a miata sold it?
Bc coilovèrs or ground controls on the cheap side
Bc are around 1000$ and honestly are not much better then ez streets that are 650$. With ground control you’ll probably have to buy new shocks since it’s just a sleeve and spring this can get pricy if you’re looking at adjustable ones. I’d know since I’ve had all 3 set ups
I agree, I went with Koni yellows and springs and wish I would have gone with a prebuilt coilover instead.
@Kyle you can always get the ground control sleeve kit for the konis.
Ground controls come with shocks now
@Dennis you can still get the sleeves http://www.good-win-racing.com/Mazda-Performance-Part/20-1069.html
Thing is I only need the sleeves, don’t need the springs as I have my spring rates already figured out. Currently using eBay sleeves and wrapped duct tape around the yellows to take up the slack between the shock and the sleeve ? it works I guess…
Omg
Racelands
Join your local Miata page. Go to meet. Ask to ride in some guranteed someone will let you
949 Racing XIDAs.
Most people can’t actually tell the difference just get some cheap shit and tell yourself they’re good and they’ll feel good to you. The human brain is pretty rad. Or sad. Idk anymore ??♂️
For street use you aren’t too far from the truth.
I’ve never been in a car with “good” coilovers. But if you’re not racing competitively what’s the point of spending 1600+ most miatas are 99.9% street driven anyway
Because you don’t want your shit rattling and bumping all over the place on the street.
Ok gabe like that’s not gonna happen anyways lol.
Thats why expensive coils ride smoother.
You can go racing with shit suspension as long as the surface is smooth. Money buys better damping…
Yeah but lets be honest here, these are like 20 year old cars with most likely factory suspension components all around. You swear like throwing on good quality spring/dampers will prevent it from riding like shit or squeaking. If you’re not willing to pay for good suspension like op then you’re probably not gonna spend the time to replace those torn bushings and sticking ball joints lol. Just my $0.02
Scroll down to the section on street. http://farnorthracing.com/autocross_secrets23.html
Tl;dr
I have a set of yonaka spec IIs on my 90 & I love them. Yes they are cheap but are worlds better than the tired suspension I had before. The spring rates are on the softer side so they aren’t ideal for competition track or autox (even though I’ve done multiple track days on them & they’ve worked surprisingly well) however, for a daily, they are very livable. They come with top hats plus have adjustable damping. The customer service is quite good as well. For less than 500 shipped, they have worked prefect for my needs.
How do these compare to the lower end teins?
I almost bought the entry level teins but I had several members of my local miata groups tell me they were not that great (higher end teins are much much better). A couple other guys had the yonakas & really liked them for the price. I talked to guy from another group who had his yonakas for almost 50k miles without any issues. Most people see the tein brand & rightfully think they’re the best bet but everything I’ve read & been told has been mixed, mostly negative
Wow I hadn’t even considered the yonaka. I was struggling to decide between the street advance and the vmaxx for a tad more but I’ll look into these yonakas a bit. From a nonbiased perspective is the ride actually good for daily driving? Not bouncy or harsh? Keep in mind I have 167k original shocks lol
The flyin miata vmaxx are a much better option if you can swing it. Flyin miata only puts out quality things. I was going to get that kit but decided to save some money for tires & track days instead. That being said, these are quite good for the price. I’m not slammed or anything close to it so these ride pretty good in terms of daily use. I normally drive my car to work during nicer months (maybe 50mi a day) & it’s not harsh at all. I recently did an all day event with my local club which involved a 2.5hr drive to the meeting point, about 4ish hours of hard twisty road driving, then a 3.5hr drive home & I didn’t have a complaint the entire time. It’s stiffer than stock so you will feel more than normal but it’s not like you’re bouncing off the bumpstops the whole time.
I’m also running a larger front sway too. The car isn’t perfect but it out handles my current skills & is livable on the street so I’m happy for right now. They aren’t a bad choice
If the budget allow $995, the MeisterR ZetaCRD would be the choice for fast road usage.
Good ride height range, compliant over uneven roads, fully assembled out of the box, and tried & tested over 7 years.
A lot of unique features make the MeisterR perform better than the competition.
Such as?
A unique extended rear top mount allow room for a longer rear damper with more travel.
The ZetaCRD have more rear damper travel than Ohlins DFV.
Unique CRD valving designed in UK that provide better performance on stiffer damping setting while maintaining compliant ride quality on softer damping setting.
UK patent pending locking collars, thicker damper shaft for more side load capacity, etc.
Quite a few bits. ?
Race lands
ricelands!!!
Fortune Auto 500 coilovers are what I’m going with. I have Yonakas on right now and tbh, they aren’t that good. Can’t wait
Been daily drifting on these for 28 years, handled way better on the canyon carving than the Xidas on my S2000.
I second this. Those 949 guys are all marketing hype. They actually use racelands on their cars
@Alex some people love a shit ride, I had yonokas and imo those where still complete shit I went back to oem , spend a good amount or just don’t bother lowering it
@Rodney I heard they’re really good actually.
@Alex Yee I can’t speak for the sleeves and springs but was not a fan of the yonokas
@Rodney are yonakas like replicas of racelands? Racelands are pretty awesome actually
@Alex naw there just a cheaper coilover with 3 way adjustable dampening ect but I find the quality of the struts are very poor
@Rodney do they use Bobstein or KYG shocks?
I’m not 100% sure
Oh ok. Do you remember if the springs were steel or titanium
@Alex steel I believe, I’m sure it has all the info online I didint so much research I just knew they where cheaper out of most options and from what I herd better then racelands but I doubt that lol
Racelands use Bobstein shocks from Australia they’re solid
I have FM vmaxx classic. They are somewhat bouncy so there’s a small sacrifice in ride comfort but they are so much better controlled. The car is flat and doesn’t get upset as easily as before so they are a big step up in performance. If stock is 5 out of 10 in both comfort and performance then Vmaxx are a 4 comfort and 7 performance.
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Very happy with my vmaxx classics. Nice ride, held up great so far
Dont get the tein street basis. These are slammed and they dont so super low. Also ride quality was shit even when not low
Bc’s, vmaxx, tein, in that order
New racelands use Bobstein shocks from Australia and titanium springs with welded retainers. Super solid setup.
BCs
Ohlins
Lol these guys can’t even pronounce it
Öhlins
Oh-leans?
Ah-leens?
Ugh-lins?
Help me out
Who cares? Just like Bride seats, apparently there’s a few different ways to pronounce that
What about Tean coilovers? Or is it teen?
Ooo-lins
I picked up Megan racing streets (up one level from EZ streets) used for $500. Handling is no doubt better than tired stock suspension. I daily drive the car and do track nights. I still regret the Megans and wish I just saved up for Xidas or something on that level.
Another thing to consider, resale price of something like Xidas is high enough where’s you’d loose like $400 max. If you buy some meh $700-900 coilovers new, you’re gonna loose the same amount of money upon resale anyway.
D2
D2F are best
Just got back from the track with my BC BRs, love em to death. ?