Just a quick question. What’s everyone use for oil and oil filter. I have a 2014 1.4 with 71,000 miles.
Just a quick question. What’s everyone use for oil and oil filter. I have a 2014 1.4 with 71,000 miles.
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Amsoil ss and wix filter
Whatever synthetic I find at Walmart with a Fram Ultra
AMSOIL signature series, coupled with their 20 micron absolute efficiency nano filter….
@Andrew good stuff best oil out there for it
Jonathan Becker yep. not even close. these vehicles require a premium fluid. Ends up being cheaper anyways in the long run. Not to mention the increase in fuel economy that’s seen with using it….
@Andrew I agree
@Jonathan …besides, anyone who’s honest would have to admit that peace of mind is priceless…
Mobil 1 full synthetic extended life. and a mobil 1 filter.
I still change every 5k miles even though its rated for 15k miles. never had a problem 5w -30
@Luke I’ve been using mobil 1 full synthetic 15k oil and synthetic filter for my gen 2 since I got it, I do the same thing change it at 5k or 6k miles. Not a single issue
@Luke it’s only rated for 15k miles IF your driving DOES NOT meet these conditions:
– cold weather
– trips under 10 miles
– stop and go traffic
– extended idling
OR
If you’re under warranty.
If you meet ANY of those conditions EVER, Mobil 1 tells you to go OEM intervals.
Therefore, the rating is practically worthless.
@Andrei good to know thanks man still do my 5k always and mobil1 seems to work well for me.
@Luke just making you aware. Their rating is basically a marketing gimmick. Their EP oil is actually one of their worst products for turbo engines.
good to know will switch to just regular mobil1 full synthetic next change
Mobil 1 is just as good as any other oil. Oil is oil it’s not a race car it’s a Chevy Cruze change it every 5k and go on your way.. your literally just paying for a brand when you get into the “ amsoil is the only way to go” it’s triple the price and when you change it every 5k your motor don’t know the difference in brand save your self some money and get some Mobil 1 or valvoline
Mobil 1 is mediocre at best. Their EP oil has a terrible thermo-oxidation performance (protection against carbon deposits in high heat) and their Annual Protection, supposedly their best oil, shears down in viscosity faster than valvoline conventional oil does.
Mobil 1, like most of the majors, sold out to a cheap group 3 base oil in the last decade or so and has been racing to the bottom price point on a Wal-Mart shelf. Since they advertise “full synthetic” instead of “100% synthetic” like AMSOIL and Motul do, you don’t even know if you’re actually getting only synthetic base oils. In fact, you could be getting 30% base oil as conventional oil since they’d classify it an additive carrier.
Both AMSOIL and Motul actually make 100% synthetic oils so you don’t have to guess what you’re buying and end up with poor protection and performance when you need it most.
https://www.motuloil.com.au/2016/12/26/81/
Also, AMSOIL is not the only way to go, but it’s certainly a good way, especially when you CAN get 15,000 miles of SEVERE SERVICE use out of it. It also protects far better than Mobil 1 does in high heat testing, shear stability testing, and has far better and more robust additives, all according to ASTM certified testing from 3rd parties like southwest research Institute and Polaris Labs.
Mobil 1, like all of the other majors, have no reason to make their oil better than the absolute bare minimum that they’re competing against.
AMSOIL signature series. Only the absolute best.
AMSOIL, the oil of gods.
Just run Mobil 1 or valvoline no point in paying triple the price for amsoil when you will still change it every 5k miles. Unless it’s a built car oil is oil they all lubricate the engine no point in wasting triple the money on an oil change for a name
Kaleb Doublin Here we go again…….Amsoil can go 25k miles and protect during that timeframe better than anything on the market. Cost per mile, AMSOIL is hands down the cheapest….not even mentioning the increase in fuel economy with AMSOIL. So, your wrong AMSOIL is significantly cheaper than a lesser quality oil. There no doubt about that…..Where you been?
why would you want to run the same oil for 25k miles though? Like regardless if it’s rated for that why would you still want to do that? I mean that is the increase in fuel economy and protection is changing it every 5k not 25.. I don’t care if my oil is rated for 50k I’m still goina change it every 5 because why would you want to have oil that is breaking down that long in your engine? So no if you want better fuel economy and protection change it every 5k regardless what brand you use. And if you do change it every 5k why would you spend triple the price for the name on the bottle? The question is where have you been? Because I’m not near stupid enough to spend triple the money for a name when half the oils are made in the same place just a different label bud
@Kaleb why wouldn’t you run the same oil for 25k miles if it’s capable of doing it?
You say no point in paying triple the price (actually closer to double) for AMSOIL when you change it every 5k miles. I say no point in changing it every 5k miles when you can change it every 15k miles or more.
You don’t get more protection or fuel economy by changing it sooner.
It’s rated for that long because it does break down. In fact I’d wager AMSOIL protects better at 15k than valvoline or Mobil 1 does at 5k.
The issue you have is you think it’s the same oil with a different label. It’s not and I can prove it. I have NEVER, through HUNDREDS of oil analysis reports, seen AMSOIL break down in viscosity even at over 30,000 mile intervals. Furthermore, the additives are far higher quality than what you’ll get with the majors. For example, did you know that there are 200+ formulations of zddp, and that the cheaper oils use a primary/secondary blend (primary is more for efficiency and secondary is more for actual wear reduction), while AMSOIL and other “boutique” oils use all secondary?
AMSOIL’s detergent pack has a 12TBN while the oils you’re using have an 8TBN.
AMSOIL’s volatility is 7.5% while what you’re using is 10-12%.
Additives for oils make even more of a difference than base oils. Viscosity index improves and pour point depressants easily shear in viscosity in cheaper oils like what you’re using but expensive additives don’t.
Mobil 1 EP for example has a teost33c (deposits created during turbo heat conditions) score of 28.1mg, with a maximum API allowed of 30mg. AMSOIL meanwhile protects against deposits FAR better with 7mg. Even schaeffer supreme 9000 comes in at 12mg, which is also good.
Andrew and I know WHY you can go so long on an oil change. We know WHY the oil can last that long and why yours can’t. The reason people here love AMSOIL is because I’ve proven I know what I’m talking about, people tried the oil, and realized it was capable of doing exactly what I said it was.
If you still want to waste your time changing oil every 5k miles, that’s your prerogative, but there’s a better way.
I would rather change oil every 5k than risk sludging up my engine and needing a new one ??♀️ price of oil changed is far cheaper than a new engine
@Grace again, that’s just not true. The oil doesn’t sludge if it has the base oil capable of withstanding the heat. AMSOIL ATF has been real-world tested to 350F for example. The antioxidant package is SO good that it keeps the oil viscosity stable for the entire 25k miles. Oxidation is the correct technical term for what you refer to as sludge.
You don’t risk “sludging up the engine” running AMSOIL for 15k-25k miles any more than you do Valvoline every 5k miles. You DO risk “sludging up your engine” changing Valvoline every 15k-25k miles though because it’s not designed to do it.
Again, this has been proven. Oxidation leads to oil thickening and darkening, leads to “sludge.” Our oils look the same (color wise) at 15k or 25k miles than they do at 5k miles, and all of my oil analysis reports (and I have many) show the oil to be in the same viscosity spec within 25k miles of use.
Quite frankly I don’t care ??♀️ Mobil 1 full synthetic 5w30 every 5k miles. I drive all highway and rely on my vehicle way too much to chance it. Plus I don’t like Amsoil
Seriously I’m BNR tuned. I drive to redline daily (when I’m not in the 124 Spider). I tow my boat and utility trailer with the Cruze. Cruze. I push the car to its limits and I still always went at least 12k miles on AMSOIL. The last run was 12,500 miles over two years. My top end, I guarantee, was cleaner than yours. I can even show you pictures.
Grace Leggio if you don’t care, you have no reason to be in this conversation.
Whether you like AMSOIL or not, it’s a technical conversation and I expect you and everyone else to stick to technical discussion.
OP asked what we use. It isnt a technical discussion because they are asking for our opinion.. it literally says on the back of all the higher mileage interval ranked oil to still follow manufacturer maintenance intervals so idk why you’re so butt hurt about us running 5k oil changes with other oil lol
Yes, but you didn’t respond to the main thread, you responded to the specific conversation held in this sub-thread, and after pointing out you lacked understanding of oil formulation, you said you didn’t care. I’m trying to keep this sub-thread on topic as a technical discussion, since that’s what it was.
I already said above, it’s your prerogative what you run. However, if you say something technically incorrect, like implying there’s a “sludge risk” of running AMSOIL for its rated intervals, I’ll correct you on it.
I just ordered an oil change for the cruze since I’ve been running e85 for over a year. Show me where on this bottle it says to follow manufacturer maintenance intervals.
I’ve done 4 15k mile oil changes with Amsoil Signature series so far on my car with bolt ons and hot tuned by BNR. Even went 15k miles on E85, inside my engine looks brand new, original turbo is still kicking at 153k. You’re risking more going 5k on Mobil 1 being its terrible with heat from a turbo.
Andrei I know your an amsoil dealer and I’m sure that’s the only reason you just made this giant response that I didn’t take the time to read because it is crap. Amsoil protects better after being used for 15k than it does Mobil 1 after 5k?? Come on man you don’t have to preach to me about how good amsoil is. You like it because tour a dealer for them end of story. It’s way overpriced and it’s the same oil as Mobil 1 or valvoline probably made in the same building just a different label.. I got better things to do then sit here and debate on why you think amsoil is worth triple the price when it protects just the same as super tech so you can stay on the amsoil or no oil train but I’ll stay over here and use Mobil 1 for a third of the price for the same exact protection. Guess some people just are smarter with the money they make and don’t see the point in paying for a name on the bottle?♂️
@Kaleb amazing how someone could be so wrong about something they’re so sure of. This must be the first time you’ve read something I’ve said, but I’ve been managing the cruze communities since 2012 with an emphasis on preventing the spread of misinformation. I’ve been a dealer since 2013. Most people know me better than that.
You didn’t take the time to read it? Sorry bud, I didn’t take the time to read anything else you said past that point. In fact, I’ll even hand you a 24 hour mute for being so disrespectful, so you’ll have plenty of time to read it.
Dear God man… take a look at 3/4 of the posts on this group page. Amsoil or you’re the devil.
@Dylan More liké AMSOIL and the people that like it are the devil, at least to the ones without data or factual basis to claim AMSOIL is not doing what it says it does. One side had fact and stats and data, the other side has apple sauce!
……apple sauce
wow another amsoil dealer pushing amsoil. Who woulda thought
@Jacob ….yep, apple sauce….
@Jacob Yeah because there are no actual AMSOIL users posting their experiences or recommendations, it’s just dealers all the time.
/sarcasm
oh no I offended another amsoil dealer
There’s thousands of y’all Jesus
Just shut it. Never used Amsoil so I will not say yea or any. But seems pretty good.
@Jacob I dont think any dealer is offended watching unsuspecting skeptics suffer from poor oil choices.
i never said anything negative about amsoil. Idk why y’all get defensive so quick. Well besides the fact you get paid to defend amsoil, that would explain the defensive-ness
Are you for real? That’s the worst option I’ve seen yet.
@Andrei I mean what would you recommend?
Runs mouth, doesn’t answer direct question.. seems legit
Justin Crick Dude, just get some AMSOIL and call it a day. Would you buy the 30,000 miles tire, if for a few bucks more get the 90,000 mile tire. Its the same with oil…
AMSOIL SS and Bosch filter. I change the filter every 4000miles and the oil every 8000miles. I would go over 10k miles between changes but BNR and I have the 1.4T turned up to about 290hp/+300tq. Plus I’m still on the stock bottom end. So, I just play it ultra safe.
Just run the AMSOIL filter so you don’t have to change it mid way.
That shit in a black bottle that the dollar store sells. What’s an oil filter? Never changed it…
Amsoil