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Does the subframe have to come off to do the rear arb bushes on a mk2?

Does the subframe have to come off to do the rear arb bushes on a mk2?

Steve

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Mike

am sure they can be done while in situ

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SteveQuestion author

Fingers crossed.

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Clive

It has to be dropped a bit 😉

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Louis

Just slacken the bolts off. It doesn’t have to be removed but the lower you can get it the better:)

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Thomas

i think he means lower,i would imagine just enough to get those 2 bolts out of the bracket ,if any snap it time to get fucked over from the car again

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SteveQuestion author

Oh yeah that’s bound to happen ?

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Clive

Flexible ratchet spanner will help 😉

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SteveQuestion author

I’ve got the normal kind 🙁

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Thomas

yea but what if one wants to take the whole bracket off same thing ?

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Thomas

and then again what if your jacking stands are holding the subframe and car off ground where then to support the weight ?

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Clive

Axle stands by silk and jack under subframe. Admittedly I was changing subframes in the picture but it shows how to

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SteveQuestion author

That’s what I normally do. I’ll have to trust the sills I guess ??

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Clive

I go on the flat areas on the inside at each end of sills

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Thomas

i see will i still be able to do that with outer sills cut off the car

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Clive

Yes you can

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Thomas

man i might jack here tonight then as its a nightmare cleaning under there with the stands on the frame its like mineshaft work or some shift

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Thomas

so where exactly to jack there are a few flat parts u know lol

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SteveQuestion author

There’s 2 semicircles cut out of the sill. Between them

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Clive

You don’t need to lower it far to get the bolt out to remove the bracket

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Andrew

The best tool for this job is an impact hammer otherwise known as a rattle gun. These will remove all but the most stubborn bolts in rapid time and save hours of work. They are not expensive either.

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Thomas

hours of work ?

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Andrew

yes because underneath an MR2 almost everything is seized solid. So a tin of Plus Gas and a rattle gun will save hours of arsing around with a wrecking bar and a scaffold pole!

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SteveQuestion author

I do have an air gun I’ve not used yet. This could be the perfect job 🙂

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Thomas

to be honest my crank bolt needed a scaffold when i was doing timing belt the rattle gun couldnt touch it

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Thomas

i did not even have the weight to break it i had to get a big dude to crack the crank bolt loose aye its worrying when its old shit

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Andrew

The crank bolt is the toughest job on any car. The torque is about 150lb/ft if I remember rightly. You can get lorry-size rattle guns taking 1 inch sockets but you would rarely need them in a weekend workshop.

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Thomas

lol yea i realised when normal sockets were exploding with the power i have lol had to get black hardened one with a 6 foot pole and a 300pound dude and thats after chopping the flange of the bolt off with a dremel lol,and to think when i tried it the first time was basic ratchet lol

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Thomas

how much torque we talkin on those sub bolts minus the corrosion

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Andrew

Might be 100. A bloody good pull. The problem is they snap off.

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SteveQuestion author

So how far does it need dropping? Does anything need disconnecting?

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Thomas

really would not want snapping going on shit thats scary

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Andrew

Yep that’s exactly the point. So the impact hammer will often shift them without fear of snapping. That’s what I have found anyway. You have to remember it’s an old car, some stuff will be impossible to get off without breakage. Plan for that from the start.

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Clive

All depends how its been looked after, mine comes apart easily as everything has been replaced. Whereas Andy’s car needed the grinder to cut nuts and bolts off

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Thomas

well i aint got an impact gun so what about a chap about with a hammer then try to remove if they snap i will go oriental on it lol

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Thomas

i have been thinking and thinking while i do this sump gasket ,if i use a jack to take the weight of the subframe while i undo the 4 bolts then will that take the strain off them and stop the snap carryon i have no impact gun and am not buying one yet,even if i apply some pressure with the jack would this help ?,if they snap or the bracket bolts snap this will be close to me hitting it with a hammer

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Clive

I have never had a problem with subframe bolts and a small breaker bar. Hold it up with the jack to take the strain off when undoing, then lower it an inch or two to take bracket bolts off.

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Thomas

right just people here and there scare stories so yes im scared lol ye ill try this tonight i hope to fuck nothing bad happens

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Clive

I swapped subframes with short breaker bar, 1/2 ratchet and a couple of spanners two trolley jacks and axle stands

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Thomas

i see i changed my jack locations yesterday to where was said and its better for access but seems to be slight denting where jacked i dont like it so i have bricks on the side as well now

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