Anyone here fully armored? 4xguard belly and engine skid, how much will my jeep sag if any at all?
Anyone here fully armored? 4xguard belly and engine skid, how much will my jeep sag if any at all?
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4x engine skid or factory? But I have factory with 4x belly
4xguard engine and belly
Ahh then dunno
I have both on the way. Just trying to see if I need to tweak the front suspension.
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@Landon can your fab guy make the strut spacers in 3/8″? I know there would be a few to purchase a pair including me and @Corey
I’ll ask. The only annoying part would be having to pull it off my jeep to get bolt pattern.
I have a set of jba I could mail you that are 1/4″. I doubt the turnaround would be in time for the meet though. Still something I’d want
Actually I got the top of a strut I could use. I know I could defiantly bring them to the meet. If u want hem quick shipping will just be more. I texted him may be tomorrow though. I know they can cut 3/8 and if I can get the strut mount they probably can scan it and it should be easy.
If you can I’d love a pair. Shouldn’t be hard.
Nope not with a laser haha.
They can powder coat it and everything if u want.
We’ll see what you can do and let me know. I’ve reached out to some locals, but if you can get it done sooner I’d rather work with someone from this page. It’s up to you or @Adam ?
No need for powder coat, it’s something you don’t see at all, I’ll hit it with a coat of paint before install
Alright I’ll see if they can get t done quick. And if they can I’ll get them the mount tomorrow. And give you the email of there sales to get everything else finished up.
Let me know. For reference, the 1/4″ plates are $30 so……..
I’ll buy a set as well
@Jimmy how much increase does the 1/4 get you?
I have full factory skid, 4x guard and superlift engine skid
Yeah but I doubt you could answer if the 4xguard belly and engine would sag the front. I don’t even know what they weigh.
A bunch, lol
No I have so much extra weight I couldn’t tell you what made me sag
Yea I have both too as well as matrix there heavy as fuck
But you didn’t notice a Change in height?
They aren’t that heavy where they are gonna cause droop in the front end. I have a 4x skid and belly guard, and mopar steel engine guard.
Thanks @Dick I might still upgrade my front suspension. I also have a steel bumper and winch. Have the factory rake which I hate
I just have a rc lift with some home brew spacers and bilstiens up front, and rro uca’s.
Yeah, you got some extra weight for sure, but then skids ain’t gonna make much difference at all.
Idk that’s a lot of weight. Are you speaking from experience? I have a modified ome up front. Steel bumper, winch, and rock sliders already. Each slider was 50lbs a pc. I imagine these skids are not light!
I have TSA sliders on mine also, I have equal spacing between wheel well and tire front and back. Compare standing on the front of your bumper vs leaning on it with your arms, gonna take a shit load more weight then those skids to cause any significant sag.
I understand how much weight it really takes to sag the front. I stood on my bumper before and after. But I’m having so many additions I didn’t know. Didn’t know if belly
Skid would distribute between front and rear or just front. I know the engine skid will add to front. So I assume that’s at-least an extra 100lbs to the front suspension.
@Dick what is your setup? Bumper/winch/suspension
What? 50lbs a pc? @Ryan
No winch but full matrix setup in the front
That belly skid sits more in the middle of the jeep than it does up front, so that weight would be spread out more to the body, vs just the front
I’ve got the 4XGuard belly, engine & front guard. The belly guard weight is more centered under the Jeep, but between the engine and front guard there’s probably 100-120 lbs up front. There’s some sag up front, but it’s minimal and that may be due to my front shocks (which are pretty worn out).
4xG front guard is very heavy. I removed it due to installing bumper but I have belly guard and then all OEM Mopar steel skids
My concern with new bumper is the exposed lines where the front guard used to cover. I may try to get something fabricated.
Yeah, i had the front guard before the wam bumper and I dislike also how the hoses are exposed when they weren’t before
It’s a small space so I wonder if @WAM would make an attachment that maybe uses bolts from OEM suspension skid. I just don’t know where we could attach it on the other end I’d have to look. @Will @Jimmy
You just bolt to the rad support like the bumper does or not attach the front end at all. I had a custom one made that mimiced the original except extended out further, and turned up. But I’m sure if I had taken more time to measure, I could have had a return that would bolt to rad support
Did you just have a local shop make it?
A friend. For free lol
The bottom of the WAM bumper is attached to cross member
Lol nice. I think I can figure something out.
I didn’t have this part
I took the original plastic skid, and just traced it out, then added 6″ to the front, and bent up 4″.
I still have the skid actually. It never really stayed on the Jeep because of the work I kept having to do in the front end.
Lol are you going to use it? If not I’ll buy it. If yes, I’ll see if my father in law can make one since he has a metal bender etc.
Yeah you can have it but like I said there’s no attachment point on the front edge because I didn’t return the skid toward the radiator support. The other thing is it’s only 1/8″ metal so it’s moderate protection but it ain’t 3/16
Plan was to weld a backbone to it similar to the JB a skid but that just never happened like most of the things I plan to do.
That’s fine it’s better then nothing. You attached it to cross member just not radiator support?
Yeah, same exact mounting points as oem
Makes sense. If you want you can send same time as decals and I’ll pay whatever you want.
Lol, I’d have to figure out how to ship it. I think it’s just a good reason to come to the meet instead ? @Jimmy
Lol!
How does the 4xguard attach?
To the sway bar bushings mount, and then to the radiator support
What he said ^^
Is it just that the bolts aren’t long enough to pass through the 4xguard and bumper?
Or it just won’t fit
The brackets itself where it attaches to the radiator support it wouldn’t fit
Now if the bracket arms were shorter
Cut it up.lol
Or make a bracket
I’d rather save the weight lol that thing is heavy!
But the angle also would bad because of bumper
I was asking about the engine guard not front guard
The OEM suspension skid?
I have Mopar OEM steel suspension skid. That picture is not the same as that
Yes jimmy but we changed the subject to wishing Wam would cover the hoses like the front guard
What are you doing with the front guard @Corey ?
Selling it I guess lol I know someone messaged me awhile back before I got bumper. Why you need one? Don’t you have one?
I don’t have the front guard. I do have the belly guard though. So yes I’d like one haha
It’s like 50lbs lol shipping may be $$
Damn
We just need to find a reason to meet up haha
First piece is here. It came with a cat again. This thing is NOT HEAVY.
Just cumbersome
Not heavy? You hit your head today? Lol
Lol 49lbs. Not bad. But what I’m worried more about is the engine skid. It’s not listed the weight.
Do you even lift bro ?